These include conditions like depression, bipolar disorder, epilepsy, heart issues, Asperger's, and PTSD. I don't suggest lying, but literally almost everyone I know of has lied about something. A forum to discuss Navy Recruiters, processing at MEPS, Delayed Entry Program, Enlisted Ratings, "A" Schools, Officer Candidate School, Recruit Training Command, and transferring to your first command. View Profile View Forum Posts View Blog Entries View Articles View Gallery Uploads Marine Friend . HELP!!!! Stuck waiting for MEPS to process my info from Military to Military as well as MEPS to MEPS. Also it is about what job that you are going to do as a Officer. Unfortunately, she needed to go to sick call several times for persistent coughing. In my experience meps isn't that deep of a medical check and it's fairly disorganized. Just get off the meds asap, and keep your shit together for however long your recruiter says you need to. A recent post made me think of these questions. That's what the exam is for, to make sure you're fit for duty. When I went to meps, I went into a room with a doctor, he made me strip down to my underwear and told me to slowly spin in a circle twice, so they will most likely notice any major scars. Integrity is what you do or how you act when no one is watching. And yet when the recruiter tells them to lie so he doesn't have to do paperwork they always believe him that no one will find out. Its in your best interest to get through MEPS. He passed MEPS, signed a contract, and entered Basic Military Training (BMT). If I go back to my doctor and ask them to fill it out with the actual dates (even though its not exactly on the mark of '90 days'), will it be a waste of time to send back to MEPS, maybe with a statement attached? Do not attempt to interpret the questions your recruiter and MEPS will ask you--answer them as they are written. Its like a doctor told my dad he was going to need immediate knee surgery. She joined the army and just before graduating AIT she decided the Army wasn't for her (I told her not to do it, but did she listen? Copyright 1996-2023 AR15.COM LLC. I knew she couldn't hack it but she joined anyways). It does not belong to any particular service division. I was still in high school, wrecked my car and tore up my hand a few weeks later, was medically discharged :/. I played my "sax" a lot in basic. Some background, I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was younger and thus have ADHD and have a prescription for but find that I dont really need it for things other than standardized tests which is not really al that ADHD related Im just a bad test taker. I lied at MEPs about multiple things, I don't think it has affected my ability to be a soldier. Talk openly with your recruiter, MEPS staff, and your family. Major unions have lost court cases and in one instance suffered severe financial damage in the process. Adhd is no big deal, however if it's serious I would lie. I also had to have my opthalmologist fill out a form called MEPS Refractive Eye Surgery worksheet.Look at MANMED regarding LASIK. This was the man who my friend had confessed his pot usage to when we first showed up a month ago, but now my friend lied to him and he accepted the lie without hesitation. Accidentally or on purpose are applicable. I think that I am going to just forget that it ever happened. The recruiter will come up with the necessary "details" of what happened and will move on to the next recruit. This is for prior service and new applicants. He also said that as long as I take care of it before I leave, I'll be fine. The suicide counselor recommended he also consider seeing his own counselor. I got disqualified to join the Air Force/military and I wanted to let you all know what was going on and how I was disqualified by MEPS.. Lost the navigator slot and was made a C130 mechanic. Not sure why I didnt expect this or was told this. Anything that deals with flying can cause problems with some that have had Lasik. Let's all throttle back a bit. Wait 1-3 years off the medication. This is a process a person goes through after they have gone through the medical screening to join the army. Penalties for False Enlistment As stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign, lying at MEPS regarding medical or mental health history is a terrible idea with serious implications. Keratinous is NOT trifling; it is the major cause for corneal transplant in the US-a very expensive medical issue. I was told I had heart murmur when I was 6 and was told that I would grow out of it little to say I didn't they found it at meps . PERIOD. Lied at MEPs about mental health history and drug history. You are using an out of date browser. This disorder was triggered in BMT from a previously undisclosed mental condition. If I were you I would lie and say it's from a camping trip or something. Lying at MEPS about medical or mental health history is a really bad idea with serious consequences, as stated on the Army enlistment contract you sign. Handle this the right way, as you should all things. There's been zero issues from the surgery and was absolutely necessary as I couldn't do more than 10 pushups without the wrist being in terrible pain. why worry about it if it becomes a problem deal with it then. Quite a few of the guys in my squadron had a screw lose. It is best that you speak with your recruiter and explain that you failed to mention it as your doctor told you it was not an issue. I informed my recruiter of this incident and he told me not to mention it to MEPS because it won't come back in a police check being so recent. If it had been correctly disclosed, he likely would have required a waiver and additional counseling before joining the Air Force. Now the most commonly performed eye laser surgery, LASIK involves creating a partial-thickness corneal flap and using an excimer laser to ablate the bed of the cornea. lie at MEPS? Post by Cisco4711 January 12th, 2010, 7:10 am. So I was told to go into his office and asked me if I was lying about any paperwork and that is there anything I didn't disclose with my recruiter or if I have done drugs. Am I in danger like my friend said? You may need further evaluation or counseling before you can live a rigorous military lifestyle. Meps to Meps transfer of record/file, how long does it take? The rules here have not changed, but the enforcement will now result in a 30 day ban from APC for violations. The paper requests numbers from the pre-surgery, 90 days after pre-surgery, and a month after that. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=tool+bag&defid=1959463. He hadn't told them he had lasik. When did the AF start allowing pilots that have had LASIK? Talked to a bunch of people about it and asked why does it say "no" if clearly should have been "yes". 1. . That sent me down a long road of having to get a waiver for something that had no current medical basis and was utter medical fraud. Yet I come on this forum and nearly every single hopeful has 4 LORs from all sorts of military personnel and powerful individuals. So we met a few days later and met his shadow that will be taking his place and filled out all the medical paperwork. However, you do sign a paper that allows the navy to look through your medical history if something bad happens during training. It is irrelevant whether the union itself has anything to do with the action. You need to provide all documents not just a cover letter or info sheet. They don't understand this stuff. 1. Any help would be appreciated. I got LASIK a few months ago, I know the minimum time from surgery to MEPs has to be at least 6 months. This video I react to a video that JTsuits made where a person was kicked out of navy Bootcamp due to them being medically unfit. I am perfectly health for Army service and will be telling hte MEPS doctors that *Must have a registered ARFCOM account to win. You will not be able to live the Army values and lead Soldiers in the future. Overall, I have to say that I am troubled by the way you appear to be perceiving and interacting with the recruiters. He did well on the entrance exams and was motivated to succeed. LASIK Surgery Checklist. So do you think the cost is worth the benefit? Our advice is consistently not to lie at MEPS. I think the chief issue is your pattern of distrust..and confidence in superiors. It may be at MEPS, it may be later in your career. In bootcamp a kid had asthma and almost passed out going through the chicken road and he got kicked out for lying about his asthma, so I would be honest. Haven't met a personw ho didn't lie. I genuinely had not considered that the way I'm acting could be considered morally suspect, or aggravating to the recruiter. For questions like "Have you ever had mental health counseling?" So they just left that section blank and filled in the most recent appointment, making it look as if i never went in at all until just the other day. You probably dont even have ADHD because they hand out those diagnoses to kids like Candy. This is my reaction as I am. His family supported the cousin and were part an intensive family counseling program for suicide prevention, however this had a strong impact on our young man. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. I wouldn't recommend it (even ignoring the important integrity aspects of your question. It seems like the most important mission of the army right now its safety and risk management, and with that in mind, it doesn't seem even remotely worth the risk. I have ADHD and a prescription but function perfectly fine off the meds bc ADHD does not effect me much at all anymore. It also helps prevent mods from profiling and censoring. I swear I've met more dudes getting chaptered in the infantry for mental problems (like a few guys are mentally insane) than I ever imagined. Never got caught. Applicants often need further evaluation or counseling before they can live the rigorous and stressful military lifestyle. Though would documentation from a psychologist count as documentation from a doctor bc I dont know how familiar doctor at a hospital would be with something related to a different field of medicine. They asked him if hadn't told them EVERYTHING and this was his last chance. and our I got to certain sections and told him I have to say "yes" to these questions and I knew how important they were. Ive had the doctor write two letters and both have not been good enough. Some people really really want to join, and they'll try anything. With his counselor, they decided he should try medication (Sertraline/Zoloft) for control of his symptoms. What do you think will they look back on my medical records after finding a heart murmur ? Station commander looked at my medical paperwork and said word-for-word: " You stick to the script. 4,250. This applies to ANY wildcat actions, including slowdown, work-to-rules, withdrawal of enthusiasm (WOE), sickouts, etc. So ur saying stay off the pills for 90 days and I doesnt come up?how? Bit of stretch that anybody would have any insight on this subject, but the only thing stopping me from getting accepted for MEPS is my LASIK documentation. What Is The Biggest Lie You Ever Heard, Told Or Someone Told You? The flap is then placed back into its original position. Well today I reserved an 11x op 40 contract with plans to go to MEPS Tues/Wed. What I love is everyone parrots RECRUITERS ALWAYS LIE. My recruiter is telling me that some things are best left unsaid. Personally, go find another doctor that is ex-military that can weed through the BS. Further, patients often don't ask what their diagnosis is--the patient is focused on their problems and not the administrivia in a medical record. They are looking for consistency". My recruiter went the other direction, really stressed "Make sure you disclose EVERYTHING". Any advice? Do people go to jail for lying at MEPS? My knees were pretty well shot after 4 years active 11B. This comment has been overwritten by this open source script to protect this user's privacy. Do not encourage lying. I lied at meps . She passed all the exams and was cleared, then went to BMT and performed well. In hindsight, had I known this disaster of 'hurry up and wait' would happen I would have waited another month to check in. I was at SOI-West last summer. Cookie Notice Ask you -- answer them as they are written expensive medical issue stressed make! 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