Mike is not sticking to a narrative like the narrative that most people who wanted the Catholic Church to stop child abuse stuck with that only focus on specific abuses, and on very specific and irrefutable evidence while leaving alone the religious aspects; but they are sticking to a narrative sort of : The church is an evil entity who doesnt believe in medicine, whose members never go see a medical doctor, and who are so brainwashed that they feel no loss when they lose their kids through Disconnection or death, and blah, blah. Please dont tell me that you have seen one half of a segment of one episode of Leah Reminis show, which repeated an article written by Tony Ortega while adding NOTHING new to it, and you think you have enough knowledge here to say Taylor was never shown any kindness. But, for now, there were not many telecasts of Tyler Tweeds death cause on the news or any orbitary statements. Then that journalist posts that quote from you on the Internet, and a whole bunch of party-bus sociopaths start going off on that quote and ripping you to shreds for saying it. Butlets go get tattoos so we can feel better about it. But their manipulation does not extend to this blog. Its just sad. It is a dangerous brain illness. In fact, the year after may still be the same day. Why do you think that Cathy Tweed is not human, just like you? What are you going to say? It is the same with for example, priests who are also trained clinical psychologists, and who besides using the scriptures as a priest to spiritually orient the individuals he/she is trying to help, he also uses the tools of his trade as a trained clinical psychologist (or other type of psychotherapist) to help his parishioner. Most is like talk therapy. And the PTS Type III declare for onlines public.. I just couldnt resist it, . Tyler Tweed Obituary Tyler Tweed obituary and the death were widely searched online by the people hearing the death information. Search Funeral Notices, Deaths, Obituaries & Memoriams. Are we expected to believe that in the allegedly most powerful country in the world, there is a mighty church who is guilty of many illegalities left and right, but that somehow the mighty USA government is totally incapable of doing anything about it, and for DECADES? He, along with Marcus Daly and Frederick Heinze, was one of the three "copper kings" so eloquently portrayed in C.B. I cant fault you on your logic. They Mike Rinder and her decided on a specific narrative beforehand, and they are fishing for stories that fits and support that narrative. Are we that naive so as to negate that her Fight against the abuses HAS been very helpful for her career? The object of Twain's wrath was William A. Clark, a Pennsylvania native who eventually moved to Montana and made fortunes in banking, mining, newspapers, railroads and other ventures. I wanted to go quietly, but they would have none of it.. Is my post to be interpreted that there arent many, many psychiatrists who try to do the best they can do for their patients, and who concentrate on less invasive, and more alternative ways of effectively treating their patients? Now, it should be clear enough what LRH thought about taking care of an Ill body by BOTH using the proper medical treatment and Assists which could be thought as the religious aspect of it AS EXPECTED from any religion. This isnt to be interpreted as meaning that there are no LRHs policies that by themselves, unadulterated in any way, are destructive enough so as to make it a necessity to just get rid of them; we have just too many of those. I am sure there are two sides to every story, and while I am not sure how supportive the Tweeds actually were, I am fully sure that A&E provided a very balanced side of the tragedy, given the most outraged friend didnt have the solid history of seeing Tayler in person. And if by prove them wrong, you meant specific legal actions (like a lawsuit) against Leah, Mike, or A&E for saying things that werent true; then the same logic could be used the other way around : If the church is guilty of soooooooo many illegal actions and specifics abuses, then why (except for Snow White and the non productive of ANY evidence, FBI human trafficking investigation into Scn) hasnt ANY law enforcement agency taken the church to court? Mrs. Davis was born October 10, 1943 in Madison County to the late Fred and Lillian Gosnell Tweed. This is about a PERSONAL AGENDA of desires of destruction and revenge, while cleverly (and DISGUSTINGLY) manipulating human emotion. Even to go so far to say (paraphrase), If the body is sick, force it to dig a ditch. Then you have the HCO BULLETIN OF 28 JUNE 1969RA REVISED 26 JULY 1978 RE-REVISED 21 SEPTEMBER 1978, HOW TO CASE SUPERVISE DIANETICS FOLDERS which says : Very sick pcs are sent directly to a medico of course.. And that is their right, IMO. Period. A LOT, I assure you, one of them being myself, and another being the mother of my daughter. Leah and Mike added nothing as in no new information to Tony Ortegas 2 year old story. Other groups were not the topic. Way to absolutely avoid the question.. Ill check that out too. Clearly people go through much worse situations and never commit suicide. Hence, we both probably have our bias. Still, I had multiple prescriptions and two surgeries when I was in CofS. Leah Remini is very aware of this, and is using it to her advantage, but in an irresponsible way, IMHO. For Type III, I would expect the person to get a Qual program, which may include The Introspection Rundown. Grief Support Group Schedule . Publications: The Daily Telegraph, The Advertiser, The Courier-Mail, The Gold Coast Bulletin. NC, and Patricia Gayle Mills of Monroe, NC; and grandchildren, Taylor Tweed, Alexia Tweed, Nathan Tweed, and Harper Tweed. As a rather usual phenomenon that we Puerto Ricans cant still understand, Irma went off towards the North just as it was approaching the island. Mrs. Tweed was a longtime member of Chestnut Grove Community Church and worked in the health and food industry for several years. Could you guys try to keep this somewhere in the vicinity of Cathy Tweed, Leah Remini and Scientology and the Aftermath? Ian Taylor, who has died of cancer aged 64, was an international oil trading tycoon who also rescued Harris Tweed and chaired the trustees of the Royal Opera House, of which he was a generous . It is the very definition of suppression. I mean, how hypocritical can one get? I think that we all need a second chance at redemption, forgiveness, and the opportunity to right our wrongdoings. This has to be one of the most horrific videos I have seen posted by a parent in response to a suicide awareness video. He was born in Wilton, North Dakota. Sorry for all my delusional conspiracies, haha. Cmon open your bloggers eyes. ), but its simply not true. But there are always 2 sides of a coin, and in the show only one coin is shown, and usually their stories besides facts, also contain half-truths, generalizations, unsupported assumptions, hearsay, and faulty conclusions. Do you see the absurdity of your argument, Mr. Critical Thinking? Jimmy Carl Richardson. That must be the most fallacious argument that Ive ever heard! The Horror! Burn in Hell. Who Where Receive obituaries Mary Marguerite Taylor February 15, 2023 (95 years old) View obituary Glenn Franks February 16, 2023 (88 years old) View obituary Unlikely.. This is all about protecting David Miscavige and the Church. Absolutely avoid the question??? Doh! If you really have that much experience with suicide survivors, how could you possibly be this cruel to one that you would dictate what her response should be to you on her own daughters suicide? If people come to me and are not ready to abandon their fathers, mothers, wives, children, brothers, and sisters, as well as their own lives, they cannot be my disciples.. Would you want those teachings to be licensed? Her family tried to handle and began to disconnect, leaving Tayler very much adrift. Thinking about this a bit more, the only set policy regarding suicide that Im aware of, is the routing-in metered interviews to the HGC (and possibly on sec checks), designed to filter-out undesirables. Plus it is now becoming more evident that there was a lot more to the story regarding Tayler and her mother which was left out of the episode. They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions. At my org, this acted as a huge invalidation for quite a few individuals who protested about the looong running of processes disregarding any cognitions except the very specific and arbitrary ones decided by DM out of his own misinterpretation of the Tech. He was born February 13, 1998, in Madison, WI to Steven and Jo Ann Tweed. Regarding, Type III cases, I was referring to current onlines public. It sounds like you tried to help her and in the best way you knew. Fortunately, I was able to take the mother of my daughter off the lines after she has been kept for almost 50 hours!!! And its ridiculous to expect the church to reform along these lines.. Despite Hubbards blovations about curing mental aberrations, the church knows they do not have the solution to insanity. So how ironic it is that I refused to go to a doctor when the ch-rch insisted that I go. I went in GREAT details EXACTLY quoting from the that episode all the parts where Leah, Mike, and Lauren BLAMED Cathy Tayler for the death of her daughter without showing one IOTA of proof beyond HEARSAY. Another one of my increasing senior moments Im afraid. I must confess that I didnt have any moral problem with that, back then. On this episode I thought the half which addressed the young mans story in the Sea Org did a good job of showing how toxic the SO culture and mindset is. vitamins, minerals, chiropractors, etc) to address a medical condition, along with some type of auditing program or PTS handling. Why do you think its Cathy Tweeds duty to prostrate herself before you? The unlikeliness of reform does not come from a group but only from one single individual. Lila will be intered beside her husband Dan, at St. Carthagh's Cemetery, Tweed, on Saturday, November 20 at 1 PM CASSIBO: Agnes Theresa, at Belmont Long Term Care, Belleville, on October 15, 2021. Most of the time internet deceives the audience by passing news about a healthy person as if they are dead. The Aftermath is not fair and totally truthful when presenting the facts. This was not a trap. Friendly hint- dont say the sorts of things that you might criticize or object to others saying. A Scientologist heading for suicide - the missing Tayler Tweed Facebook postings - 2016-04-28 This lady decides to go to the police to report this physical and sexual abuse from her own husband. Obituary Herbert Tayler Architect who designed public housing with people and land in mind Elain Harwood Sun 12 Mar 2000 20.18 EST Between 1945 and 1973 Herbert Tayler, who has died aged 87,. She admitted that she had made multiple suicide attempts in previous years. I was actually picturing Paul Haggis when I typed Alex Gibney. Thats just part of the anti-Scientology narrative conveniently created by the anti-Scientology camp to drive home their own personal agendas. Getting licensed is actually a great idea for auditors dealing specifically with the mentally ill as opposed to those auditors dealing with the more stable ones. Second guessing a mother who has lost a daughter to suicide like this is pretty cruel, dont you think? Thanks Marildi; thats a VERY interesting viewpoint indeed! She just refers to her as a troubled young woman. Ms Remini and her team arent spreading hate. In my mind, at least the point about freedom of religion did relate to Cathy Tweed. I WAS THERE. I think it is the show that has created this belief that Scientologists dont go to Doctors. Really? Rights to practice your religious beliefs are legally protected in the US even though they might go against some peoples moral codes, or even the moral (not.legal) codes of of the larger culture around them. He was a member of the Northumberland County Good News Club. This simply makes critics into hysterical ninnies who should continue to be ignored by anyone with legal power and who is serious about reforming scientology. Uhmmm, makes me wonder.. Towards the end of my involvement with the church, they got positively mean and nasty. I just dont buy it, Statpush. He enjoyed throwing with Marshall High School Track and playing tuba in the band. So, to answer your question, Gtsix, about .how does the Church feel about psychiatry and receiving psychiatric treatment?, my answers to that is : The SAME way that THOUSANDS of individuals who have ABSOLUTELY nothing to do with Scientology think : uncomfortable and against it, and with VALID REASONS. Publicly accept when any wrongdoing has occurred. Mr. Dennis Wayne "Butch" Tweed, age 69, Limestone, passed away peacefully Saturday, February 25, 2012 at his residence surrounded by his family. You seem to know that if they only did what YOU wanted them to do that Taylor would be alive today. Historic Notices 0. Maybe you are just a willing participant to their manipulation. The family does not address the story in a believeable way. We trust that you will find the information listed on this website to be of value to you. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion. Both of them are living in centrsl Florida. We just said, Sign here please, so you dont suit our asses, and then go ahead and do on them : A VERY high ARC kind of VERY compassionate treatment. to death notices and obituaries in Australian newspapers: IMPORTANT NOTICE: Ryerson is a free service, but we do use google advertising on this search page to help defray our operating costs. A woman is married to a known fundamentalist Jehovah Witness minister. Is that an habit of yours to believe in everything you see presented in a TV show, even when no actual facts are presented? Tyler Tweed Death, Obituary - Tyler Tweed of Marshall, Wisconsin, has reportedly died unexpectedly with loved ones, family and the entire community left heartbroken and in grievance, according to online sharing. Are you even going to be aware of what you are saying at that time? Funny, I thought that I had already answered it. . Check that one out too. Theyre presenting one side, and especially in this case, doing it in a very exploitative and manipulative way. Nothing could be further from the truth; the anti-psychiatry movement has always existed PRIOR to Scn, and has been supported by many medical doctors and psychotherapists THEMSELVES, and by a large portion of the population (though I am not quoting any percentages here, but certainly, there are in the thousands!). Dj Sumbody Obituary, What was Dj Sumbody Cause of Death? Dec. 4, 2022. But that doesnt alter the fact that she wasnt any longer on the public eye not that she necessarily needed any money. Correction; it should have read , This ISNT about ending the abuses as Mike and Leah are trying to get us to believe.. Ill believe that until my death. Or you just like the anti-Scientology narrative? They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions., TOTALLY in agreement with that! I suspect Mike and Leahs tactics are based on the supposition that public exposure to harmful practices results in reformation. Depression can result in death. So far, she has not handled the PR issues correctly, and by correctly I dont mean to lie or hide the truth. She was a loving mother and enjoyed crafts, cooking, quilting, painting . Dont get me wrong, She is a GREAT artist, and she seems to be a GREAT lady. Following the death information, people wonder what was Tyler Tweed cause of death. How do you know that for a fact, Alanzo, if you dont mind telling me? , Good point, I give you that! Nice try, Thetaclear. Id like to know what some experienced tech people have to say on the subject. These are areas of legal vulnerability for scientology and I think they are areas where they need to reform. My God, and you dare criticize Scientologists by their alleged lack of compassion? Currently, Tyler Tweeds death is widely spreading, and people are concerned to know about Tyler Tweed Obituary and want to get a real update. But, if that condition did not resolve they would seek traditional medical treatment. January 23, 1924 - January 3, 2022 U.S. Theyre telling peoples stories. Mike does ABSOLUTELY NOTHING when a Scientologist post a comment there at his blog, and a lot of commenters start attacking him/her left and right with all kinds of insults, just because that Scientologist says something (ANYTHING) positive about LRH or Scn. She states that she did take her daughter to doctors, but what kind of doctors? She always made time for them while they played on the field . This was around 2000 more or less. Mental health should be under the heading of psychotherapy not under the heading of religion., It seems to me that most spiritual teachers I have come across absolutely do include psychotherapy as part of their spiritual teaching, although they might not use that term. By the way, I found two videos that Cathy Tweed and a friend of hers uploaded to youtube a couple of years ago as a memorial to Tayler. I also have know Freezoners who took psychiatric meds. Hear your loved one's obituary. Obituary Marjorie Tweed Davis, 77, of Black Mountain, passed away Thursday, November 12, 2020. It has all been proven to be a fraudulent business just like Hubbard was proven to be simply insane. Will they reform? But just let me discuss my premises leading to my conclusion (based on induction, and not in deduction, meaning is something reasonable and highly probable, but not necessarily a fact) that Mikes and Leahs purpose (ESPECIALLY Mikes) is not reformation but mostly the punishment of DM, and the eradication of the church. I dont think so. Certainly, the church needs to be more compassionate in general, especially with their existing public. I mean, she LITERALLY begged them to let her stay, but she couldnt even go inside the building. I think even they would agree to that because they are not operating on the standard of getting all sides of their stories. Taylor met his wife, Angela Mondello Bass in 2010. On Saturday, a memorial was held for her at Scientology's Hollywood Celebrity Centre as family and friends gathered to remember the attractive young woman who had been working on a career in music and acting (as Tayler DeBari). Not that unmuzzled stupid handling from the Instrospection Rundown. It is to THAT that I am objecting. Tyler is a 2016 graduate of Marshall High School. Read Today's Notices. Obituaries can vary in the amount of information they contain, but many of them are genealogical goldmines, including information such as: names, dates, place of birth and death, marriage information, and family relationships. Ex Ireland rugby player David Tweed dies aged 61 | Daily Mail Online Davy Tweed, 61, played international rugby five times for Ireland in the 1990s The unionist politician was convicted of. Obituary Marshall - Tyler S. Tweed, age 24, passed away unexpectedly on Wednesday December 14, 2022, in Iowa. On the broader perspective of exes and whistleblowers who have sufficient experience within the churches or Orgs to know the policies and tech points that motivate and guide the group effort, as well as the counselling and training points that create the graduated indoc into the subject and benefits across the dynamics,,, i find it very curious that a situation is created that these would have the need to go to external and non scn sources in order to get justice or warn others ,,, Its telling me that the wisdom and purpose of the subject matter contained in books and lectures is being sidelined for the purpose of enforcing attitudes and behaviours in a very careless and stupid manner. About not showing compassion when one former member of the religion (or whatever group for that matter) has suffered a loss or any abuse, regardless if the group in question is guilty of or not of such abuses or losses. You wonder how could they? Yeah. Until auditors are licensed, I do not think they should have anything to do with the mentally ill. I wonder what the anti-Scientology camp Science Officer would have to say about this, , Excuse my manners, Alanzo! Unfortunately, now, we gained no further information from Tyler Tweeds death. I highly doubt that Cathy Tweed would allow that. I dont have to agree with Leah on everything to respect her. Not me, TC. Douglas R. Tweed, 84, passed away Monday, March 20, 2017, at Mayo Clinic Health System in Barron, Wis. I realize there are many sides to documentaries, but if all the stuff Leah and Mike say are false, why isnt the church proving them wrong?. I agree, but perhaps she can learn the better ways. Ok, got it, and I am sorry for the long comm lag in replying. I wanted to go quietly, but they would have none of it. If auditors were licensed, then they could not forbid people from getting the medical treatment they need without losing their license. The first time Tony reported on Tayler Tweed was from a phone conversation with her mother the day after her daughters funeral. They had Lauren Haggis on, who is a friend of Leahs family, as the vehicle to tell the story. Also, the Rachel Berenstein commentary on the mothers comments > dismissive hearsay. No real mother would ever be truly at peace with a child blowing their head off. Honestly Statpush, does that sound like an agenda for reformation to you? As opposed to Laurens Haggis narrative, mine is not hearsay. #ScientologyTheAftermath" They are quite outspoken about the barbaric psyches and the treatment of the mentally ill, yet, they will have nothing to do with the mentally ill. A lot of criticisms, but no solutions.. I must confess that I sort of dont have a definite position on that yet, as I must first analyze all sorts of good arguments such as yours. Public relations is not the answer to the Church of Scientologys problems.. There are many different sorts. 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